I have been experimenting with some of the newer hybrid hops lately, breaking away from the more traditional. Doing the same mash; just using a different hop. last batch was using Simcoe. turned out pretty good, though I am not a super hop head, just trying new ones out. My current batch used 2 oz. Palisade (1.5 in the boil,.5 dry). seems kinda funky. 44 IBUs but really bitter, like grapefruit. Dont know if it’s just my bad taste for hops or is this one actually raunchy.
Next one is gonna be Citra. I’m just not sure How much to dry hop. Should I throttle back on the IBUs? What do you think?. ???
I tried Palisade once and all I really recall about them was that I didn’t want to use them again.
I think that in low doses they work as a substitute for something like Willamette or maybe even Mt. Hood. At higher hopping rates they just come across as “dirty” to me. I can’t think of any other way to describe it.
“Fuggley”
This may sound odd but I made an all Palisade ale and it seemed almost sweet and grassy to me… a very mild hop as I recall.
I think the Palisades I used were the ones you sent me, Dean.
I’ve used Palisade several times with great results. Always as a finishing hop. I get honey/orange from them. I’ve used them in combination with Columbus as the bittering hop, threw in an ounce of Palisade (5 gal. batch), at flameout. Tasted a lot like SN Pale Ale.
No way they are a sub for Willamette.
Just try it out, that’s the best way to find out if you. You can ask on the forum all day long, the only way is to try it out. Make a small batch if you’re worried. Everyones tastes are different. What you like, a thousand other people won’t. And they’re usually on the forum and they’ll tell you all about it! ;D
I made a killer IPA using Palisades. Used them at the end of the boil. I’ve never bittered with them. They went great with Williamette. The combo was fruity, not citrusy. Here’s the hop bill FWIW:
1.00 oz Cluster [8.30 %] (60 min) 31.9 IBU
0.40 oz Galena [14.20 %] (60 min) 21.8 IBU
1.00 oz Willamette [6.40 %] (20 min) 8.3 IBU
1.00 oz Willamette [6.40 %] (15 min) 6.6 IBU
0.50 oz Palisade [8.40 %] (15 min) 4.3 IBU
0.50 oz Palisade [8.40 %] (10 min) 3.2 IBU
1.00 oz Palisade [8.40 %] (1 min) 5.4 IBU
2.00 oz Simcoe [14.10 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)
I just made a ‘golden’ ale yesterday using only palisade… my first time using them too. If I don’t black out, I’ll report back.
I used these for the first time Sunday in a Palisade only Blonde. I thought the aroma was close to Willamette. I’m a big fan of Willamette, so I’m hoping the results are similar, but with higher alphas.
I wonder how much of the fruity character was from the Simcoe? I find that with really oily strongly aromatic dry hops the milder late addition hops tend to get overshadowed.
The Simcoe was dry hopped. Got some aroma out of them but not so sure I got much fllavor out of the. Very distinct flavor from the Palisades however…
It’s one of my favorites for bittering porters and stouts. I don’t care for it as a stand alone late hop.
I just used Palisade hops for a porter and it turned out great!
Northdown 1oz 60min
Willamete 1oz 30min
Palisade .5oz 40min
Palisade .5oz 50min
I really like palisade hops. The descriptors that i have seen as grassy and apricot seem accurate for how I have used them. My oat pale ale that uses chinook, palisade, and cascade is a winner in my opinion because of palisade. I find them similar to willamette in that they are mild and have some earthy/grassy character to them however I wouldn’t use them as a sub
I like them. A lot. Great hop. I’ve used them in dry hops for English bitters, late hops in stouts and porters, and bittering hops in German wheat beers. They seem to get along exceedingly well with fuggles, wilamette, etc. I’d consider them in a Belgian style beer, or even a Saison.
I’ve only used Palisade hops in 1 beer, an American Barleywine, and the beer turned out excellent and won many medals. quite pineapple and tropical fruit.