I Brewed a 1.060 wort yesterday. I pitched a pack of 001 pure pitch. No starter at 2pm. Pitched at 70 degrees. Then my temp went to 59 unexpectedly. I took it out of the cooler to warm back up a bit this morning. I saw no airlock activity at that time. Now I see a very small amount of activity. I took a gravity reading just now and didn’t see a change. I have cooled my temp down to 60 in the past with no issues but I used a starter. Could that be the issue? Should I pitch another pack of 001?
Maybe give it a swirl, see if you can get the yeast back up off the bottom. I would just pick it up on your knees (if in carboy) and give it a good swirl for 10 mins. Wait like 1 hour and see how its going then
Just shook it up. I did the same thing this morning too.
I’m sure it will take off, but sounds like you should have made a starter. Pitching another pack won’t hurt anything but your wallet, but I don’t think it’s needed.
What are you fermenting in? Any positive pressure in the airlock?
Yes. Positive pressure in the airlock. I’m using a speidel. I doubt I will direct pitch again. Thought I would try it. I was too lazy to make a starter.
I have said it a million times. Ale does not need to be started at 60F in order to produce a cleanly flavored product, especially ale fermented with BRY 96 (a.k.a. Ballentine “Beer,” “Chico,” Wyeast 1056, White Labs WLP001, and Fermentis US-05). BRY 96 is one of the most forgiving yeast strains on the planet. All starting an ale at 60F does is delay the onset of active fermentation (It can also mask yeast handling and brewery hygiene problems). Anything that slows metabolism slows replication.
Got the temp up to 65 and it’s going now. Looks like a temp issue. Live and learn.
I’m not see about this but pitching the yeast before the wort is at the desired temp seems like a bad idea. The only time I had a really bad fermentation I did this. Now I usually brew at night and pitch in the morning when the temp is stable.
I think that’s the real problem here - pitching as the wort cools. It’s much better to get the wort down to the temp you want, even if it means leaving it overnight in the fridge/freezer and then pitching the next morning. I’ve used Chico in the low 60s many, many times with no stalls.
Even if the OP pitched at 21C/70F (I pitch almost every batch of ale that make at 20C/68F to 21C/70F and every batch of lager at 16C/61F to 17C/63F before allowing the wort to cool to fermentation temperature), the drop in temperature is not rapid enough to shock the culture. There is a huge amount of thermal mass in a 5 gallon batch of wort.
I’d bet it didn’t help either, Mark. 70 down to 59 is generally something to avoid, unless you like stalls.
That’s quite a generalization to make without actually knowing how fast it was. I’ve seen a drop that large stall fermentation in a 5 bbl fermenter where it took several hours.
It was 70 at 2pm when I pitched. I wanted to drop it to 65 so I put some ice in the cooler. Checked it the next morning 6AM and the temp was 59.
In that case you probably didn’t have any real yeast activity until after well after the temperature drop.
A day and a half of visible lag time isn’t really anything to worry about regardless. In this case it was a combination of relatively low pitching rate and relatively low temperature, but there’s nothing inherently bad about it provided your sanitation is good overall.
Yeah. Good to go now. Not worried about an infection. I have never had this happen to me before. I was gonna be let down if I blew $45 on ingredients and 7 hours of labor!
If it helps…
My last 2 batches were brewed while the ground temp was too warm to get the wort down below 70F. I stuck the carboys in the fridge and promptly forgot about them until the next day. At that point they were down to about 34F and I took them out. I shrugged my shoulders added the yeast (smack packs, no starters) and let them sit. After 3 days or so they finally started showing signs of fermentation. They did their normal things with no issues.
Things got busy with marching band and I wasn’t able to touch them again for about 7 weeks. Except for the rather nasty mold growing in the blow-off bucket (and I mean really nasty), nothing out of the ordinary happened.
I kegged them last week and they were more clear than any beer I’ve made in ages and the samples tasted great.
I’m not recommending this approach, but offer it only as an example of all the things you can do to wort that are completely wrong and still have very good beer come out of the process. I broke just about every “rule” and, assuming nothing goes south during carbonation, I will have a very tasty wheat and an Irish Red on tap in a couple of weeks.
Kind of proves RDWHAHB.
Now that the girls are done with marching band I will have time to brew again and hopefully pay more attention.
Paul
Placing a 5 gallons of wort in a temperature controlled fermentation chamber is not quite like a glycol jacked fermentation vessel. Glycol cools a lot faster than air.
Surface area to volume is way higher for a 5 gallon batch. You can cool at least as fast if not faster. I can drop a carboy 10 degrees in a few hours in a chest freezer chamber (measuring with a thermowell in the very center).