I purchased some hops on sale this week i felt the pricing was pretty good. Ive bought here once before just different hops. Never used Chinook, Nugget or Willamette but i thought at these prices i would at least give them a shot. Any recommendations or opinions on those three?
I love Chinook, Centennial and Nugget. They’re great in AIPA and other American (hoppy) styles. Centennial along with Cascade are also wonderful together in APA. As for Willamette, they’re an American Fuggles variety, so they’re suitable in British pale styles, porter and stout.
Nugget is a great bittering hop. It’s not quite as smooth bittering as Magnum, but it’s not as rough as Chinook or Columbus. I use it for bittering all my American-style dark beers and occasionally APA’s.
Chinook gives a nice bite when used for bittering. It’s nice when you want a bit of snap to your IPA’s. It also has a big pine flavor and aroma, making it a great late hop for IPA’s as well.
Willamette is very Fuggle-like. I get earth with a touch of citrus. It’s nice in English-style beers, and I like it in stouts and porters as well. I like how it pairs up with Roast Barley.
Centennial is a classic American flavor and aroma hop. It has the classic “C-hop” grapefruit zest note. I also get a little bit of lemonade and some pine from it. Use it in any beer whose name ends with “PA” or is brewed with 1056.
You’ll need Chinook if you want to brew an Arrogant Bastard clone. I usually get my year supply of Magnum, Cascade, Centennial, Chinook and Hallertauer from Niko. Niko is a pretty cool guy too!
Every bag of hops that I have received from Nikobrew has been past its prime. My favorite supplier at this point is Hops Direct. In my humble opinion, Puterbaugh Farms grows the best Cluster in the industry. It’s the only Cluster that I will use for late additions.
I’ve never used theirCluster, but I will say the Columbus from Hops Direct is incredible. If you’re looking for “dank”, theirs is the dankest.
Hops Direct also gets some great imports. I got some organic UK Challenger from them last year that was out of this world. It has an amazing white chocolate aroma to it.
I’ll also agree with Denny about Hop Heaven. Everything I’ve gotten from Ted has been top-notch. Ditto with Yakima Valley hops. They’re still the only place I’ve been able to source Caliente from. And their Apollo is amazing as well - lots of orange and dank without any onion.
yakimavalleyhops.com is the best hops site I’ve used. Selection and quality are killer, BUT I haven’t tried Hop Heaven. I’d love to try some of their hops.
+1million. We run a small commercial operation, and my freezer is full of those silver bags. Super fast shipping. (although I am only 150 miles from Yakima.) LOL Sometimes they do limit you on certain varieties.
I have to ask just what do hops smell like when they are past their prime? Im just wondering- i like to think my nose works pretty well and I would just like to know what to look for when it comes to this. I guess im lucky cause all the hops I have bought so far are really pungent when i open the foil bags ive never sniffed and said that smells musty or old.
IF they’re packaged properly (by vacuum and stored in a freezer) what you’ll notice for a year or two is a gradual decrease in aroma and flavor intensity, not a negative aroma/flavor IMO. When I use hops of this age for finishing (flavor and aroma) I use a little more as they get older. Past a couple years you may start to notice ‘off’ flavors and aromas (stale,musty) as well as a reduction in AA. And years old hops can actually lose most AA and get funky and cheesy smelling. Unless you’re making a lambic, not good to say the least !
They won’t smells musty, especially if they have been kept in the freezer. Hop cones are flowers so think about them as flowers rather than fruit which goes bad and stinks. Have you ever smelled old flowers? They smell like dried grass or hay and not much else. Same thing will eventually happen with hops. Before they reach that neutral aroma they can go through a cheesy stage where the hop oils are oxidized. It takes a while, especially in the freezer, to develop those cheesy aromas but even when they start to get cheesy you will still smell some of the hop character. Eventually all the aroma fades and you just get a hay aroma.