I believe this stuff is pretty much the same as is the bleach that splashes all over helsinki without regard to how slowly and carefully it’s handled. The no-splash stuff is syrupy, like pancake syrup. How much should I use to mix-up a concentration that will be really bad news for the bacteria that infect our beers? The stuff is so cheap at Walmart that I can mix-up five gallons, use it and throw it down the drain when I’m done with it.
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Looks like they have two thickening agents/surficants in the splashless. (One in the concentrate - which is sodium chloride in both)
But the real problem is that the active ingredient in bleach is at a much lower and more variable concentration across these products makes it really hard to predict the dilution.
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Wow. Learn something new everyday. Never knew this form of bleach existed until now.
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I’m not a chemist, but as I understand it: as the water in bleach evaporates, the chlorine volatilizes and goes away leaving behind the sodium. Do the surfactants stay behind, too? Will they impact the brew?
How many of you have had bleach splashing problems? I know it’s never been a problem for me.
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Doing landry–I have had it splash on my clothes. Never noticed it until the white spots appeared later. Brewing…well, I rarely ever use bleach.
Of course. I use it so rarely that normal usage didn’t even occur to me.
I use bleach for cleaning bottles on a daily basis. I don’t have splash problems, but I measure it by the teaspoon. Maybe in larger quantities splashing could be an issue. But if the unknown concentration is an issue, I’d be hesitant to use it.
Household bleach is Sodium Hypochlorite; Sodium Chloride is table salt.
Yes, but what I was referring to is that the bleach products both use salt as thickening agents.
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Hasn’t been mentioned yet, but should… Bleach is a no-no for stainless. Why would you use anything else but Starsan for brewing? If you mix it up with RO water, it lasts a really long time.
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Bleach is bad for most metals in general, but it does have some limited use with plastics and glass. It is also more potent than Starsan, which is a sanitizer. Bleach can be used at a disinfectant when properly dosed.
That being said, it should be used with caution, but it can be very effective as a antimicrobial and safe to use in homebrewing when used properly.
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Bleach is also a very effective cleaner for glass. I got this from Complete Joy of Home Brewing - a rate of 2 oz per 5 gallons and an overnight soak. It’s the best thing I’ve found for cleaning bottles. I haven’t needed a bottle brush since I started using bleach.
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This is what I’m wanting to see. Over twenty years ago, I was using common, splash-it-all-over bleach. I really believed that I was mass-murdering bacteria and other avenues to infect a batch. I’m wanting to try the no-splash kind since I still believe bleach kills good & dead the bugs that can ruin a batch.
Just a warning… Not all “splash-less” bleaches will sanitize. The Clorox web site says “Make sure that “Disinfects” or “Kills germs” appears on the label.”
FWIW, the AHA website recommends bleach as a sanitizer. I will never use it – I’m fine with StarSan, and if I want to throw another sanitizer in the mix, I’ll use something else. But here it is: Homebrew Equipment - American Homebrewers Association
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Wonder how we can get that changed?
I may have suggested this before, but a link to “report a problem” for a page would be helpful. There are a lot of pages on this website and at any time some of them will need updating.
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I’ll suggest it.
Thank you!
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