No one is saying support a bad business. When the discussion turns to “support your LHBS”, I think you can fairly say “I don’t have a good one” if that’s how you feel about it. Because while I support my LHBS as much as possible, there are some of those 6 that I don’t like and I would be buying everything online if they were the only choices available. Back ~1998 I stopped brewing for 6 months because my favorite shop burned down and I didn’t like the available options. If I had known about a good online store I would have shopped there, but I didn’t.
I agree, that’s bad business. I assumed you were referencing one shop as a bad business, not LHBS in general. I wouldn’t expect anyone to support a shop where they don’t like the owner, the staff members are rude, the prices are exorbitant, etc.
I participate in a group grain buy here in Denver once or twice a year. I buy English Pale, Pilsner and usually split a bag of Munich with someone (avg sack price is $40-50 with shipping). I purchase my American 2 row from my local Gordon Biersch brewery. The head brewer allows me to come by and fill up my 33 gallon trash can I use for grain. He charges me his cost, which is about 30 cents per pound.
I buy specialty grain, yeast and other supplies from my LHBS. It’s close - 15-20 minutes into Boulder for me. They have good prices and service so I try to spend my money there when possible.
As for the bulk grain, they just can’t come close to those prices which I understand. As much as I brew, saving some dollars is helpful. I try to frequent mom and pop stores, restaurants and services as much as possible, even if it costs a little more. When it costs a lot more, I tend to go somewhere that less costly.
http://beeradvocate.com/beerfly/list?c_id=US&s_id=WV&homebrew=Y
This is the link to to the BA page for WV homebrew shops. Mine is The Cellar. There are two reviews from club members before the rift. The club did go on to buy from North Country Malt. They may have dealt with the local brewpub as well.
The 55 lbs. Muntons Pale Malt was $66 at the time, around April 2009. Prices are down since then. Now I would price it at about $59, plus 3% tax.
I for one am not sympathetic to my LBHS who owns a monopoly over a large area, and is completely uninterested and unresponsive to customer requests. You can shove your 400% markup and matching attitude up your ass. ;D
I wanted to order a full palette of NCM back a few months and they wanted 750 clams to ship it to Las Cruces, NM. Now I go through my local brewpub and can get any Briess product by the sack for 25 bucks. I’m happy with that being there is no HB shop in town. Just a quasi shop that is really a pool and spa place. I get yeast from there during the hot months and that’s about all.