Rye IPA

I tried brewing this and ran into problems hitting mash temp, etc. Not a good brew day. Needless to say, flavor is off, not what I expected. Liked the spicyness but something is off. My main thoughts on this though are on the hops. I used Columbus and Chinook but hadn’t really used these before. I was mainly trying to add to the spicyness of the rye and didn’t really want to add citrusy flavors so stayed away from the amarillo, citra, etc. I’d appreciate your thoughts on this.

Est OG: 1.058
Est. FOG: 1.015
IBU: 67.5
Color: 16.5
ABV 5.6%
Batch size: 6 Gal

9# Pale Malt
1.75# Rye Malt
1# Crystal 40L
0.75# Munich Malt 10L
0.5# Victory Malt
0.5 # Crystal 120L
0.25# Chocolate Pale
0.5# Rice hulls

Mash @ 154, 60 min

Hop schedule:
Columbus (15.4%) - 0.8 oz 60 min
Columbus - 0.5 oz 15 min
Chinook (11.8%) - 0.5 oz 15 min
Columbus - 0.5 oz 7 min
Chinook - 0.5 oz 7 min
1 oz each of Chinook/Columbus - dry hop 7 days
Yeast: London ale III (Wyeast 1318) - Ferment at 68 - 7 days.

Overall, I was not hitting my numbers and it tastes like I have some off flavors in there so I might just try it again as is first, but wanted to get some feedback as well.

Could be the British yeast.  I don’t care for British yeasts at all in my Rye IPA recipe and I’ve heard others say the same thing.

You think the hops are all right?  That’s my main concern.  I might switch out the yeast and use some pacman I have on hand to make sure I’m getting a real clean neutral flavor, but want to get some feedback on the hops.  Thanks.

Hops seem fine to me.

Dude, I looked over your original recipe from Tastybrew, and I cannot fathom how you say the “Hops seem fine to me”??  The timing for the additions is off from your recipe, and Chinook is no substitute for Mt. Hood!  Man, stick up for your own recipe!! :wink: :o

Yeah, but look at the grist…this isn’t my recipe, it’s the OP’s.

Oops… :-[ I got indignant for nothing!  Can’t blame me for associating ALL rye IPAs with you… :stuck_out_tongue:

I appreciate your outrage defending my recipe.  :wink:

It’s all good.  Thanks for the feedback.  I just wasn’t sure on the combination columbus/chinook hops.  I might even just drop the dry hopping additions after drinking an arrogant bastard and then having a Sierra Nevada’s ruthless rye.  I like dry hopping for the aroma, but in this case, it’s all about the spicyness of the rye and flavor of the hops, not so much aroma.

I made Denny’s rye IPA and didn’t hit the numbers and it was still great. Trying again - 2 weeks in and everything is going smoooooth.


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I’ll have to look up Denny’s recipe and take a look.

You can find it here…

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/DCRyeIPA

In order to make this a red would you substitute about half the carapils with carared?

or add a couple oz of caraffa

If you’re talking about my recipe, you’d need more carared than that.  There’s only 1/2 lb. of carapils in there.

Gotcha.  I’ll pay around with the recipe in beersmith.  8)

Okay so here’s the revamped one:

Batch size: 6 Gal
SRM: 18
IBU: 71.9
Est OG: 1.068
Est ABV: 6.8%
Based on est mash eff at 78%.  My last beer (in the fermenter right now) was done using my new mill and my mash eff went up to 84%, so we’ll see what happens this time.

Hop schedule will stay the same and will keep columbus/chinook dry hop as well.

57.1% 10# Pale Malt
17.1% 3# Rye Malt
8.6% 1.5# Carared
7.1% 1.25# Crystal 60L
2.9% 0.5# Cara-pils
1.4% 0.25# Carafa I
0.5# Rice hulls

Mash 154 for 1 hour, sparge, boil, chill and ferment with Pacman at 62 for 10-14 days, dry hop for 5 at 68.

I last brewed this in 2013 and was thinking of  revisiting it.  I just started brewing and was scammed into getting 5.2 stabilizer, which to me muddled the hop flavor. Now I know better.

Denny, with all the new hops available and the recent trend in late hopping would you do anything different with the recipe if you still brew this now?

For me and my wife, this recipe is perfect and I wouldn’t change a thing.  If I did, it would be a different beer.