Summit… have really tried to like it, but I either get strong catty or intense onion/garlic from it. Thought it was just that harvest - so went for it once more with fresher hops. Ugh.
I’d add Fuggles to my list, too - it’s not earthy like other earthy hops to me, it’s more earthy like dirt IMO. El Dorado can be good in a balanced blend, but by itself is overly sweet and Jolly Rancher-ish. And I’ll reserve judgement until I try it again since the free hops were shipped in the hot months, but I’m not in love with the Jarrylo hops I tried. I found them to have a phenolic banana character that clashed with the other fruity character. And of course Summit, the King Of Onion And Garlic.
I find the Summit remarks interesting, as always. I have seldom gotten the onion/garlic thing from them and the couple times I have it’s always aged in tangerine.
Add me to the Summit list. And I really want to like it. That tangerine character is phenomenal. But I get a note of onion/garlic/parmesan that is not just off-putting, but quite savory as well. It’s like taking a slug of pureed onion rings. It is not enjoyable to me whatsoever. It does make a decent beer to cook with, though.
There aren’t any other hops I hate, but a few that I don’t have much use for. I know a lot of brewers seem to like Calypso, but I didn’t get too much out of it. Belma is another one that has very little flavor to it. El Dorado is OK, but a bit too sweet and monotone for me. I’m sure it’s good in a blend, but I have enough other favorites that I don’t see myself reaching for it.
There are so many hops I have yet to try but I have avoided some including Summit due to feedback found on this forum.
I don’t care for El Dorado at all. As others mention, it is too ‘sweet’ and one noted for my tastes.
Against popular opinion, I don’t love Mosaic. I don’t hate it but has driven me back to standard American varieties like Amarillo, Centennial, etc. I find it gives overly powerful notes of berry that takes away from a beer’s ‘beerness’ to me…
Agreed. I get more stale cat pee out of this than I do Simcoe. Although, I might just be very biased against cluster because the last time I had a beer with it in it, it was a local brewery trying to pawn off one of their “experimental/pilot” brews: an all cluster IPA. Kind of an embarrassment to the brewery for allowing the public to drink it. I made it through about 3 sips.
I’m also not a fan of Citra, either on it’s own or playing a large role in a beer. To me it comes across so tropical-fruity that it makes the beer seem too sweet. Used in moderation with other hops, though, it can play a great role.
Denny - ever had Tocobaga from Cigar City? lot of hops in the boil, but its all Citra in the DH - its awesome.
If i can only pick one, I won’t ever buy El Dorado again. as commented above, its watermelon jolly rancherish to me. i can’t stand it, even though i do love the candy.
Earlier this summer I had a Pale Ale made with experimental hops at Bells. It was straight up raw green onion/shallot. The wife got a whiff from a few feet away! I wish I know the experimental number for this one, so I could avoid it like the plague.
The vote on Polaris is still out. That minty, wintergreen, floral, and fruity combination is something I might get used to, or decide I don’t like.
Once all the craft newbies get finished with the newer ipa’s, things are likely to come full circle back to Centennial and Cascade. They have really fallen by the wayside the last few years.