So I will have a yeast cake of WY2565 kicking around in a couple weeks, and I’m not sure what I should make next with it. One things I’m curious about is if it would work with a bunch of American hops, specifically cascade and Columbus. I have a pile of those that I need to use up (2lb or so), and my keg of hoppy APA is almost gone.
The obvious choices would be a cream ale or a blonde ale, but I’ll already have a pilsner and a kolsch on tap so I don’t need to fill that void.
Any thoughts on using a kolsch yeast on something totally different, maybe a baltic porter or a brown ale?
An Alt would work. I haven’t made one of those in many years. To possibly complicate (or simplify depending on the perspective) the issue, I have half a sack of Maris Otter that needs to get used up. It is still crisp/crunchy, but the sack has been open for about 7 months now and the clock is ticking (it is in the original bag sealed up in a big container, so it is aging slowly).
Just “thinking out loud”, would a scottish 70/- fermented with Kolsch be like a sweet Alt?
I’m kinda surprised by all the variety in the recommendations. IMO 2565 has such a distinctive taste that kolsch is about the only thing I could see using it for.
For clarity, I guess I’m looking for suggestions about what would be interesting to make with it. As far as adhering to style, that doesn’t matter to me. My main concern is problems with the kolsch yeast flavor clashing with whatever else I’m doing and making an unpleasant brew.
Here’s what Wyest says. I agree with their suggestion except, perhaps, the alt (depending how you handle the yeast)
American Wheat or Rye Beer
Berliner Weisse
Bière de Garde
Cream Ale
Düsseldorf Altbier
Fruit Beer
Kölsch
Northern German Altbier
Spice, Herb, or Vegetable Beer
I had a similar situation a couple of months ago. I intended to make a Kolsch with 2565 and then didn’t, but tried out the yeast in the recipe below on a whim (going for that area around West Coast Blaster).
I like the way the beer turned out and felt like it played fine with the hops. My only complaint is that even after a 6 weeks at 34F I have enough yeast in suspension that it’s not as clear and crisp as I’d like.
Fermentables
Amount Fermentable PPG °L Bill %
5 lb United Kingdom - Golden Promise 37 3 32.8%
5 lb United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale 38 3.75 32.8%
2 lb Wyermann Vienna 36 3.4 13.1%
1 lb American - Caramel / Crystal 40L 34 40 6.6%
1 lb Avangard Munich 40 10 6.6%
0.5 lb American - Caramel / Crystal 120L 33 120 3.3%
0.5 lb American - Victory 34 28 3.3%
1 oz United Kingdom - Pale Chocolate 33 207 0.4%
3 oz United Kingdom - Coffee Malt 36 150 1.2%
15.25 lb Total
Hops
Amount Variety Type AA Use Time IBU
21g Magnum Pellet 12.4 Boil 60 min 31.12
14g Cascade Pellet 6 Boil 10 min 3.64
14g Centennial Pellet 9 Boil 10 min 5.46
14g Cascade Pellet 6 Boil 0 min
14g Centennial Pellet 9 Boil 0 min
Fermented with 2 packs of WY2565 Kolsch at 64F.
Yeah, that stuff takes forever to clear. I fined my kolsch this summer with gel and it took 2 weeks @ 31F to get it mostly clear. Another 2 weeks and it was crystal.
So I pulled the first pint of this in a week or so and it has definitely cleared up.
When I brew this again I’d like to do the same thing but maybe with Saaz hops or something a little more on the spicy side to help cut through some of the maltiness. I do like the way the Kolsch yeast plays with the MO/GP though.